February 26, 1997 Chat Session    

 

Jerry: Hi, sorry I'm late, but needed to rebuild the desktop so Netscape could find Global chat

 

Cynthia: Hi, I'm Cynthia and I support the ACOT team will also be observing the course.

 

Jerry: Anybody here TAKING the course:-)?

 

Karelle: Hi, I'm Karelle and I am the technologist and computer graphics resource person at Eagle Rock School in Estes Park, Colorado. We are a non profit private alternative high school for at risk students from all over the country. All of our kids are here on full scholarship. We have some really talented students, they keep me on my toes.

 

Ann: Hi. I'm Ann from Logan,Ohio.French teacher taking the course.

 

Bonnie: Jerry, are you taking the course, and if so, where are you from, etc.?

 

Bobbie: yes I'm Bobbie from Texas School for the Deaf. I teach Art

 

Trish: Hello, I'm Trish and the instructor. Thank you for your participation

 

Susan: Yes, a few of us are. I'm one of the official "students". I'm Susan and I am a high school journalism teacher in Round Rock Texas.

 

Joel: I'm Joel (as you can see) I'm a physics computer teacher from Holmdel High School in New Jersey and I'm taking the course too

 

Jerry: Hi, I'm Jerry, I am taking the course, I'm a Theology/History teacher at Redeemer-Seton High School in New Orleans

 

Joel: SThat's Physics & Computer Science teacher sorry

 

Bonnie: I'm Bonnie and I work at Apple in the research group. I'll be studying how this medium works for delivering certain kinds of instruction.

 

Brian I'm Brian Reilly and I work with the ACOT project. I'll be watching and helping out. Bonnie and I did the CD ROM we will be sending all of you tomorrow.

 

Trish: I am a technology instructor at Gunderson High School, San Jose, CA

 

Bonnie: We do have a few students who couldn't make it to the chat, like a teacher in Israel, but we'll be seeing their work, etc. on Web pages.

 

Karelle: Someone asked a little earlier if this will be the permanent time?

 

Susan: Hi Karelle, introduce yourself please. I'm fascinated by all our different specialties and locations.

 

Trish: Wednesday seemed to be the best day. I'm open to a different time.

 

Ann: Wednesday works well for me most of the time.

 

Joel: I'm Ok, the "Pacific Time" Threw me off that's all (I was here at 4pm Eastern....)

 

Susan: About an hour earlier would work better for me because I could get on from school instead of lugging everything home. My PowerBook doesn't have enough memory to handle all this.

 

Bobbie: The time is good for me

 

Karelle: I am the technologist and graphics resource person for a small private, nonprofit (Honda funds the whole shebang), alternative high school in Estes Park Colorado for at risk students from all over the country.

 

Trish: Is there anyone who can't make it at this time each week?

 

Jerry: Time is pretty much open for me, after school, that is.

 

Ann: The time is good for me.

 

Karelle: This time is a bit of a problem for me. An hour earlier would be better.

 

Trish: Unfortunately, I'm still teaching. Any later?

 

Reinhold: Hello -- don't mean to interrupt the flow. I am also with ACOT and you can find out all about me on ACOTNet!! If you have any questions related to ACOTNet you can address them to me (and of course to everyone)! I will stay around in the Darkroom after Trish ends this session should you have any questions related to ACOTNet.

 

Karelle: An hour later would be okay too

 

Trish: Any other thoughts about time?

 

Ann: An hour later is ok for me also.

 

Bobbie: I'm flexible

 

Trish: We must be in education to be soooo flexible!

 

Joel: No latter than 1 hour from now though... That's pushing it on the East coast

 

Susan: My students will probably kill me, but maybe I can just keep this computer at the house for six weeks. In that case, the time is okay.

 

Trish: Joel, we certainly want your imput so we won't go beyond a hour later.

 

Trish: Susan, we want you to continue in the class!

 

Jerry: to observers, what do other classes do about varying time zones?

 

Susan: I fully intend to do so though my very spoiled students will probably bout since this computer is our only internet link.

 

Susan: Make that pout...I can't type today.

 

Jerry: I can't type anytime:-), but susan, how about staying at school?

 

Trish: There will be a disscussion bullitin boad available for your comments. Each will be able to access and have imput. Check it periodically and exchange ideas.

 

Joel: I do it almost everyday (stay after that is!)

 

Susan: That is a possibility, but we dismiss at 4:15 central time and that means being there for no less than 3 hours after school is out. I do that often enough already.

 

Jerry: you must admit it poses an interesting dilemma for Internet education?

 

Jerry: oops, that was supposed to be for Brian-sorry

 

Karelle: School is a 24/7 proposition here anyway, but occasionally it is nice to see one's children. I generally stay late on Wednesdays anyway.

 

Jerry: teacher's out the room (in singsong)

 

Joel: Trish don't leave I still have some questions...

 

Trish: Sorry, Just got disconnected! I think I'm back!

 

Susan: Who's Keith?

 

Keith: Hi, I the ACOT program manager.

 

Trish: How do you think we can best use our chats in the weeks ahead/

 

Trish: Welcome Keith

 

Jerry: this is probably obvious, but problem discussion and expectations for the upcoming assignments

 

Ann: Are we to receive instruction from Trish or just discuss what is working or not working with the assignments?

 

Joel: Sorry I just got Global CHat working...

 

Susan: I would think we might want to discuss how we can implement some of these assignments in the classroom, but then again that may be a problem since we are from so many different content areas.

 

Trish: Ann, we will be collaborating. Each of your experiences will be beneficial.

 

Jerry: but that's the beauty of multimedia, its cross-curriculum

 

Ann: Susan, I agree, esp. if the goal is to share this technology with our students, etc.

 

Trish: Cross curriculum is the place and I think all of you offer so much to education . I would like us to exchange our ideas.

 

Jerry: tell me, do any of you teach in a way that does NOT include research?

 

Joel: For the assignment, In answer to those questions earlier DPI & Size?

 

Joel: What do you mean Jerry?

 

Ann: Ohio has begun a massive project, called SchoolNet which is going to wire all classrooms for multimedia. There is a big push to learn here.

 

Jerry: I see photos. multimedia as a way to express research in any content

 

Joel: Trish my district is in a 2 year project to wire the entire district with Cat5 cable and be Multimedia Internet ready in every room...

 

Ann: Jerry, how are you defining research? French is not a research subject unless you do culture.

 

Jerry: how is multimedia wiring different from regular internet/computer wiring?

 

Susan: There is talk of some of that in Texas, but the state is so big that individual school districts are going to have to do most of the implementation. There is a bond issue coming up for a vote that would wire all of our classrooms. Right now we must compete for one of 10 lines on our campus and dial out through the switchboard.

 

Joel: None....

 

Joel: No difference in wireing

 

Bobbie: At TSD we will all have internet access sometime in the spring

 

Ann: Multomedia wiring in Ohio must be Cat 5 or fiber optics to have enough bandwidth.

 

Trish: 72DPI JEPEG . Will discuss size.

 

Jerry: research=looking up stuff and reporting on it. True, in language one drills a lot, but culture does/can require research - BTW how would you use photos for straight language anyway?

 

FourEyes: Jerry--the difference may be fiber (for multimedia) vs. cat5 for within-building networks.

 

Steven: Aloha from Oregon, everyone... late, but glad to be here!

 

Trish: Welcome Steven! Glad you joined us!

 

Susan: Journalism involves non-traditional research in the sense that you can't get most of the information in the local library, live interviews are a necessity.

 

Susan: Steven, what do you teach and where?

 

Joel: In a course I'm teaching called Project Technology, my students have been using images to enance drawing and artistic works...

 

Ann: I try to use visuals to teach French. I also use a quickcam and video camera to record speaking

 

Steven: Suasan, I teach Technology and Journalism at a school attached to a resident treatment facility (wide range of grade levels).

 

FourEyes: Steven, welcome! Better late than later!

 

Steven: Thanks, 4eyes!

 

Karelle: I work with all of the instructors here at Eagle Rock, most of our curriculum is involved in some way with research. Experiential learning is research in a very non traditional sense.

 

Jerry: I have a question re the books. Do we buy/procure all of them or some of them, or what?

 

Trish: Those may be used as a resource or you may purchase.

 

Steven: Jerry, try your local library first...you might be surprised to find half of them there.

 

Trish: There will also be resource links for you to take a look at on the site.

 

Jerry: re: research - I see everyone uses it in some way i.e. the students can use the technology to report or summarize their learning in some way

 

Joel: which site the ACOTnet site? (Trish)

 

Trish: Yes.

 

Bobbie: We use technology to create computer art

 

Trish: How do the students like this Bobbie?

 

Karelle: Bobbie, so do we, among our other uses

 

Bobbie: They love it.

 

Trish: Have they used digital photo as part of the courseBobbie?

 

Joel: I find they love using it for Computer Art as well

 

Susan: Our art teachers want computers so badly...one of my students is art and journalism and his art teacher sends him to my room to work with PhotoShop. He is doing incredible things.

 

Karelle: Trish, our students have become inseparable from the computers on which the graphics software is loaded. Some of their work is on our web site.

 

FourEyes: Bobbie, what is it about the creation of computer art that, in your view,makes the students love it?

 

Trish: Joel, How do you use the computer art?

 

Bobbie: yes The camera is the basic tool for our students especially teh beginner

 

Susan: From what I've seen of the lone art/journalism student I have, he loves the versatility of it. I'm planning to let him work with the digital camera soon. We just got it.

 

Joel: As of now, they have use Art in designing advertisments, flyers, and dekstop publishing. They haven't worked with editing grafics yet.

 

Trish: You'll find it difficult to have them stop Susan.

 

Bobbie: The students love the ease of the computer. Some use it as freely as a pencil to paper. They find they can edit their work quickly.

 

Joel: I find that even students who normally resist "school work" do not mind it if it is done on the computer...

 

Jerry: OK, all you artsy-craftsy types,:-) what about us traditionalists-you know good old fashioned history?

 

Trish: Feel free to take a 5minute stretch break.

 

Susan: That is definitely true. Students who don't like to write will do it if I let them use the computers.

 

Bobbie: I work closly with the computer teacher. He adds quick time to some of our projects and now is exploring VR with some of our gourd projects

 

Joel: Actually many of them are willing to work above and beyond as a result of being able to use the computer for the assignment

 

Trish: Jerry how have you make use of computers in your class?

 

Steven: I agree, and I've seen comptuers become a key theraputic tool at our school, too.

 

Susan: We work with a local company (small, family owned) to produce our entire yearbook on CD Rom. It includes everything in the print book, plus video and this year we plan to include a virtual tour of the school done with the digital camera.

 

Ann: The yearbook on CD rom sounds exciting.

 

Trish: That's great Susan. How many on staff?

 

Joel: Susan that is a really wounderful idea. I know at my school the students have started making a WEB edition to the school paper "the Sting" but lI like the CD-ROM Yearbook...

 

Bobbie: We have them in every classroom and kids now use them as a tool. Like in my class they can prepare adesign for aclay pot before starting it.

 

Susan: It is, but it is slow to sell. Few students have the technology at home to run it.

 

Steven: Anyone working with Electronic Portfolios? And if so, what storage medium and software used?

 

Jerry: I have one computer in my class, and I am the only teacher in my school (other than the computer lab) that has a computer. My students do research and instead of writing a term paper, I teach them to make a multimedia presentation. Just last week, I have sent them out on the Net to do research and e-mail me an essay on their findings.

 

Bobbie: Susan that sounds great.

 

Susan: We have 28 on yearbook staff. Our newspaper is also on-line thanks to a sophomore boy who pestered me until I purchased the necessary software.

 

Ann: I also have one computer and this year I also want them to do a multimedia presentation.

 

Karelle: Steven, we are taking that on right now. My plan is to coordinate through FM and use CD's

 

Susan: What is FM?

 

Steven: Karelle, FM=File Maker?

 

Bobbie: We are beginning to start with portfolios- just researching different methods

 

Karelle: FM = Filemaker

 

Joel: Susan, with the CD-ROM how do you get around multi platforms (IBM / MAC)

 

Ann: I am also interested in the portfolios.

 

Susan: The company which produces the CD has made it multi platform.

 

Steven: We are testing standards like HyperStudio or Digital Chisel to create multimedia portfolios, tho our District hasn't set a standard yet.

 

Karelle: The Elec. Portfolio will be one component of the Indiv. Learning Profile and Assessment.

 

Ann: We have HyperStudio but haven't used Digital Chisel.

 

Karelle: Hyperstudio is great and we use it for a lot as it is.

 

Bobbie: Our school does alot of hyperstudio. That sounds like an interesting way to set up the portfolio

 

Jerry: I use Chisel in my classes and have found it a little more elegant than Hyperstudio, although HS is a bit more user-friendly

 

Susan: I've seen HyperStudio and heard the man responsible for it speak at the state computer educators convention last week, but I've never used it. What exactly does it do?

 

Steven: The 1 major feature diffence of Digital Chisel is the test-taking and saving of student records.

 

Joel: It's like Hyper Card only easier Susan

 

Karelle: My complaint with Hyperstudio (an older version) is that it does no justice to graphics.

 

Jerry: Sisan,its a multimedia authoring program

 

Steven: HyperStudio a glorified version of Hypercard, ability to combine graphics, sound, movies, text. Yes, Karelle, not great on some types of graphics.

 

Karelle: I evaluated Dig Chis and decided that Hyperstudio was more powerful and since test taking is not something we do a lot of here, that was no advantage.

 

Ann: The new version of HyperStudio is supposed to connect to the Internet with a button.

 

Joel: Karelle, I haven't used Hyperstudio yet wuith graphics (images) The newer versions may be able to handle higher coloring and resolution

 

Karelle: Joel, I think you are right. But my older version does everything else just fine so I have never changed.

 

Karelle: I have to go. See you next week.

 

Steven: Yes, I agree, for the students HyperStudio is better --- and the company has FREE cd to check it out (fully functional).

 

Steven: Aloha, karelle!

 

Trish: Thanks Karelle.

 

Susan: Question, when, how, where do we post our assignment for Week One

 

FourEyes: Bye Karelle, Look forward to seeing your work!

 

Bobbie: Our middle school kids use hyperstudio. The Highschool students advance to Director

 

Trish: We have about 5 minutes left. Any questions on the first week assignment?

 

Bonnie: I have to depart now. Looking forward to our next session.

 

Joel: Yes How do you want us to post our assignments?

 

Jerry: before we all start leaving, let me understand the assignment - we are supposed to learn the photoshop tools and use them to "adjust our photos"?

 

Trish: Bye Bonnie. Thanks.

 

Jerry: can we get a copy of these chats-and if so, how?

 

Steven: Yes, I heard they would be posted for us to access later--correct?

 

Trish: I would like you to take your photos, use a number of the tools to make adjustments and send them via email to the site. Have fun.

 

Joel: which email adress should they be sent to?

 

Susan: Send two photos via e-mail to which address?

 

Bobbie: So if anyone wants to chat later this week do we meet in the chat room. Susan I'd be interested in hearing more about your yearbook.

 

Susan: I'll be glad to share a copy if you would like one. We have some extras. I'd need an address.

 

Jerry: what exactly do you mean by "make a copy of your photos for reference?

 

Steven: Good question---our only "official" chats to take place on Wed's at 4 pm?

 

Joel: Could you send me one too Susan. I'd be really interested.

 

Trish: Susan, you will have a folder on the website. You will submit it to acotnet@research.apple.com

 

Joel: Susan I'

 

Bobbie: Great it's on the info listing at the website

 

Joel: ll email you my adress

 

Ted2: Sorry, I have to leave now. Success to all! Toodleloo.

 

Susan: Great, Joel. I'll be happy to share a copy with any of you who want one. Just send addresses.

 

Trish: If you have any further questions about the website, Reinhold will be online to answer. Thankyou for your insights today. I must be on my way.

 

Bobbie: So do we go wild with this photo or restrict to 5 tools

 

Brian We will send a CD ROM out to everyone using the address you included in your registration. If that should be changed, please let me know -- reilly@apple.com

 

Susan: I'm out of here...choir practice awaits.

 

Ann: Thanks. This has been great!

 

Steven: Thanks for sharing, Susan.

 

Bobbie: This has been fun. Thanks

 

Joel: Reinhold, we just send the picture and you'll post them and andall....?

 

Steven: To anyone left --- since I arrived late, anyone want to offer a few sentences on any important info covered in the first 20 min.?

 

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